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	<title>Comments on: Radio Free Skaro #170 &#8211; Back To Reality</title>
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		<title>By: anattendantlord</title>
		<link>http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/2009/11/29/radio-free-skaro-170-back-to-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-964</link>
		<dc:creator>anattendantlord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Glenn - I didn&#039;t realise one was meant to think of podcasts like a drive-in shop, where you can berate the &quot;staff&quot; for not having proper onion rings, as it were. 

&lt;i&gt;You want to do this sort of a thing for a living, then take the criticism on board!&lt;/i&gt;

Erm, do the guys think of this as something they do *for a living*? What happened to doing the best you can for fun and for fulfillment? Or is that not creating sufficient synergistic leverage (or summat similar)?

The sense of self-importance and entitlement in your first few comments on this thread leaves this bear of little brain rather bemused. If you genuinely wanted to leave constructive criticism, as opposed to flaunt your superiority, why didn&#039;t you choose kinder words in which to express your misgivings and your no-doubt-treasured words of wisdom?

But hey, what do I know about communication...

Ach, sorry to RFS for not letting this one lie. Feel free to delete this if you feel it&#039;s just adding to the noise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Glenn &#8211; I didn&#8217;t realise one was meant to think of podcasts like a drive-in shop, where you can berate the &#8220;staff&#8221; for not having proper onion rings, as it were. </p>
<p><i>You want to do this sort of a thing for a living, then take the criticism on board!</i></p>
<p>Erm, do the guys think of this as something they do *for a living*? What happened to doing the best you can for fun and for fulfillment? Or is that not creating sufficient synergistic leverage (or summat similar)?</p>
<p>The sense of self-importance and entitlement in your first few comments on this thread leaves this bear of little brain rather bemused. If you genuinely wanted to leave constructive criticism, as opposed to flaunt your superiority, why didn&#8217;t you choose kinder words in which to express your misgivings and your no-doubt-treasured words of wisdom?</p>
<p>But hey, what do I know about communication&#8230;</p>
<p>Ach, sorry to RFS for not letting this one lie. Feel free to delete this if you feel it&#8217;s just adding to the noise.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Twenty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Twenty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarcasm is a little difficult to discern in statements like &quot;...I do have to take exception at one thing you said…&quot;

Suggesting people should be &quot;horsewhipped&quot; is clearly ridiculous</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarcasm is a little difficult to discern in statements like &#8220;&#8230;I do have to take exception at one thing you said…&#8221;</p>
<p>Suggesting people should be &#8220;horsewhipped&#8221; is clearly ridiculous</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Glenn: Clearly sarcasm is lost in a medium such as this, from both sides apparently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Glenn: Clearly sarcasm is lost in a medium such as this, from both sides apparently.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Twenty</title>
		<link>http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/2009/11/29/radio-free-skaro-170-back-to-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-958</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Twenty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....oh yes, Cribbins.  It&#039;s called research and being professional.  You want to do this sort of a thing for a living, then take the criticism on board!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.oh yes, Cribbins.  It&#8217;s called research and being professional.  You want to do this sort of a thing for a living, then take the criticism on board!</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Twenty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Twenty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 04:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unsurprisingly you took the clearly ridiculous suggestion of &quot;horsewhipping&quot; seriously......

There&#039;s no personal attacks, I&#039;m sure you&#039;re a lovely person but your response however only confirms my criticisms that I posted in relation to the production of your podcast, and where I believe it could be improved.  Hey, what would I know?  I&#039;ve only produced Television Network broadcasting for over a quarter of a century.

But back to the point you took exception to, Bernard Cribbins is a comedy icon with a long career that is recognized internationally.  Ignorance of that fact beggars belief.  It&#039;s like saying Richard Todd was that guy from &quot;Kinda&quot; (RIP). 

As for suggesting I submit whatever, why?  I&#039;m not in the business of creating a podcast, although your suggestion again displays the lack of humour the other two hosts have in spades.

In closing, if I answered criticisms of my work like you have done here I&#039;d never get anything done.  Don&#039;t provide a forum for feedback if you think you&#039;re going to receive nothing but fawning bouquets.

Please don&#039;t take it too hard.  Some folk have engaging personalities that come over well to the listener/viewer like Steven &amp; Warren, and some are best suited to &quot;behind the scenes&quot; producing, like you and me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unsurprisingly you took the clearly ridiculous suggestion of &#8220;horsewhipping&#8221; seriously&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no personal attacks, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re a lovely person but your response however only confirms my criticisms that I posted in relation to the production of your podcast, and where I believe it could be improved.  Hey, what would I know?  I&#8217;ve only produced Television Network broadcasting for over a quarter of a century.</p>
<p>But back to the point you took exception to, Bernard Cribbins is a comedy icon with a long career that is recognized internationally.  Ignorance of that fact beggars belief.  It&#8217;s like saying Richard Todd was that guy from &#8220;Kinda&#8221; (RIP). </p>
<p>As for suggesting I submit whatever, why?  I&#8217;m not in the business of creating a podcast, although your suggestion again displays the lack of humour the other two hosts have in spades.</p>
<p>In closing, if I answered criticisms of my work like you have done here I&#8217;d never get anything done.  Don&#8217;t provide a forum for feedback if you think you&#8217;re going to receive nothing but fawning bouquets.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t take it too hard.  Some folk have engaging personalities that come over well to the listener/viewer like Steven &amp; Warren, and some are best suited to &#8220;behind the scenes&#8221; producing, like you and me.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Glenn:

I&#039;ll leave the personal attacks be as you&#039;re more than entitled to your opinion about what you do and don&#039;t like.

However, I do have to take exception at one thing you said...

&quot;Although, anyone involved in a Doctor Who podcast who flags their ignorance by claiming to be unaware of the work of Bernard Cribbins deserves to be horsewhipped.&quot;

Please take a step back and look at that. You&#039;re not talking opinion here, really, and that&#039;s wholly unfair. Awareness of Bernard Cribbins&#039; work relative to Doctor Who begins and ends with Voyage of the Damned and (presumably) The End of Time Part Two respectively. Depending on one&#039;s definition of canon, the second Peter Cushing movie could be included in there as well, of course.

How there should be any expectation of a DOCTOR WHO podcast to be able to speak with any clarity or authority beyond that scope is frankly absurd. Admittedly there are always going to be actors (or other people involved in a production) about which people in general are going to know more, and anything extra is certainly a nicety when discussing said individuals on a podcast, but is hardly a requirement with horsewhipping being a suitable punishment for lack of knowledge outside that scope.

If you disagree with this, I do beg of you to prepare and submit a detailed essay on the pantomime work of Colin Baker and John Barrowman, taking special focus on any time if and when their paths cross, because certainly as a Doctor Who fan you&#039;ve declared you deserve to be horsewhipped if unable to fulfill such a request.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Glenn:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll leave the personal attacks be as you&#8217;re more than entitled to your opinion about what you do and don&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>However, I do have to take exception at one thing you said&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Although, anyone involved in a Doctor Who podcast who flags their ignorance by claiming to be unaware of the work of Bernard Cribbins deserves to be horsewhipped.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please take a step back and look at that. You&#8217;re not talking opinion here, really, and that&#8217;s wholly unfair. Awareness of Bernard Cribbins&#8217; work relative to Doctor Who begins and ends with Voyage of the Damned and (presumably) The End of Time Part Two respectively. Depending on one&#8217;s definition of canon, the second Peter Cushing movie could be included in there as well, of course.</p>
<p>How there should be any expectation of a DOCTOR WHO podcast to be able to speak with any clarity or authority beyond that scope is frankly absurd. Admittedly there are always going to be actors (or other people involved in a production) about which people in general are going to know more, and anything extra is certainly a nicety when discussing said individuals on a podcast, but is hardly a requirement with horsewhipping being a suitable punishment for lack of knowledge outside that scope.</p>
<p>If you disagree with this, I do beg of you to prepare and submit a detailed essay on the pantomime work of Colin Baker and John Barrowman, taking special focus on any time if and when their paths cross, because certainly as a Doctor Who fan you&#8217;ve declared you deserve to be horsewhipped if unable to fulfill such a request.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Twenty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Twenty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek, yes I find Warren to be always amusing too.  That&#039;s why it&#039;s a shame that he &amp; Steven are dragged down by Chris.
Frankly, it works fine as a duo, as this episode proves.  What people like Odd Brian overlook is that if Chris continues to be too much of a chore to listen to, then RFS will be producing podcasts for their own enjoyment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek, yes I find Warren to be always amusing too.  That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s a shame that he &amp; Steven are dragged down by Chris.<br />
Frankly, it works fine as a duo, as this episode proves.  What people like Odd Brian overlook is that if Chris continues to be too much of a chore to listen to, then RFS will be producing podcasts for their own enjoyment.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Twenty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Twenty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignore Odd Brian, he seems to think he knows how I think, and he&#039;s dead wrong.  Ratings??  It&#039;s about the podcast being enjoyable.  Obviously he&#039;s even wrong about me missing #169.

I&#039;m not &quot;dissing&quot; Chris.  I&#039;m just telling it as it is.  He is a bore who drags down this otherwise enjoyable podcast</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignore Odd Brian, he seems to think he knows how I think, and he&#8217;s dead wrong.  Ratings??  It&#8217;s about the podcast being enjoyable.  Obviously he&#8217;s even wrong about me missing #169.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not &#8220;dissing&#8221; Chris.  I&#8217;m just telling it as it is.  He is a bore who drags down this otherwise enjoyable podcast</p>
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		<title>By: Odd Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Odd Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignore Glenn. He seems to think podcasts need to involve themselves in skirmishes for ratings like CNN and FOX News do. Obviously, he missed the excellent discussion the RFS  team had with Podshock&#039;s Ken Deep in #169.

As for dissing Chris, well, I&#039;m sure he could grind your bones to make his bread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignore Glenn. He seems to think podcasts need to involve themselves in skirmishes for ratings like CNN and FOX News do. Obviously, he missed the excellent discussion the RFS  team had with Podshock&#8217;s Ken Deep in #169.</p>
<p>As for dissing Chris, well, I&#8217;m sure he could grind your bones to make his bread.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Riordan</title>
		<link>http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/2009/11/29/radio-free-skaro-170-back-to-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-948</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Riordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn, that&#039;s harsh. But fair.   No-one should be forced to watch SJA, Dreamland, et al (not even podcasters ;)).  Props to Steven for watching the &#039;ancillary&#039; shows and making the &#039;effort&#039; to listen to Hornets Nest and for being continually enthusiastic and yet still keeping his feet on the ground because, y&#039;know, DW podcasters are up there with the demigods of modern culture...  I can excuse Warren&#039;s tardiness &#039;cos he never fails to make me laugh. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn, that&#8217;s harsh. But fair.   No-one should be forced to watch SJA, Dreamland, et al (not even podcasters <img src='http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).  Props to Steven for watching the &#8216;ancillary&#8217; shows and making the &#8216;effort&#8217; to listen to Hornets Nest and for being continually enthusiastic and yet still keeping his feet on the ground because, y&#8217;know, DW podcasters are up there with the demigods of modern culture&#8230;  I can excuse Warren&#8217;s tardiness &#8216;cos he never fails to make me laugh. <img src='http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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